Breads (Sourdough) - Soft Loaves

Soft Sourdough Rye Bread

July 02, 2019 | Recipe by Bake with Paws
Soft Sourdough Rye Bread

Soft Sourdough Rye Bread


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I didn't expect a soft bread made with rye flour to rise much and be fluffy. Even small percentages of rye flour have a tendency of producing a denser crumb.  This Soft Sourdough Rye bread texture is moist and soft.  It is not as fluffy as the white bread but it has a delicious aroma. 

I used only 18.57% rye flour for this recipe and am not completely sure if this would  qualify it to be called Rye Bread?

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How To Make Soft Sourdough Rye Bread


Yields: 1 loaf

INGREDIENTS:

Yudane Dough:
70g bread flour (I used Japan High Gluten Flour)
70g boiling water

Sweet Stiff Starter):
60g sourdough starter (100% Hydration), preferably use at its peak 
180g bread flour (I used Japan High Gluten Flour)
75g water
30g sugar (I used organic brown sugar)

Main Dough:
65g dark rye flour (I used Bob's Red Mill, Organic Dark Rye Flour)
5g bread flour (I used Japan High Gluten Flour)
All stiff starter (above)
All the yudane dough (above)
5g brown sugar
1 tsp (5.5g) salt
45g egg, whisked (from 1 medium egg)
15g water 
25g butter, room temperature

Egg Wash: 
1 egg + 1 tbsp water, whisked

Utensil:
450g loaf pan (21.3 X 12.2 X 11.5 cm  /  8.4" X 4.8" X 4.5")

METHOD:
  1. Yudane Dough
    1. Add bread flour in a bowl, pour the boiling water and mix well with spatula or spoon until no dry flour.
    2. Cover and rest for at least 4 hours or overnight in the fridge. I prepared the night before.
    3. Take out from the fridge 30 minutes before using to return to room temperature.
  2. Sweet Stiff Starter 
    1. In a bowl of stand mixer, dilute starter with water, stir in sugar and add in bread flour.  Mix with paddle attachment until well mixed and all come together.   It can be done by hand mixing too.
    2. Cover and let it ferment until tripled. I prepared a night before and leave it in aircond room (approximately 24 - 25C room temperature) overnight until tripled.  It took about 8 - 9 hours depending on your starter.  It should take around 4 - 6 hours to get triple at room temperature at 28C - 30C. The starter should look smooth and round dome.  It shouldn't collapse.
  3. Main Dough:
    1. Put all ingredients (except butter) into a bowl of stand mixer.  I usually torn the stiff starter and yudane dough slightly first.
    2. Slightly combine the mixture by hand with the paddle attachment before turning on the machine so that the flour will not splash out.  Using the paddle attachment, mix for about a minute or until all incorporated.  This step is critical to prevent  an uneven mixed dough as the stiff starter is rather hard and a dough hook may not be able to mix it well enough.
    3. Change to hook attachment and knead for another 3 minutes at low speed #2 (KA) or until the dough comes together. Add in butter and continue knead for  about 10 minutes at low speed #2 until the dough become smooth.  The dough quite soft and extensible because of the rye flour.    The whole kneading process, I stopped few times to scrape down the dough from the hook to be sure it is evenly kneaded and also to prevent the motor from overheating.
  4. 1st Proofing/Resting:
    1. In the same bowl, let the dough rest for 30 - 60 minutes. Keep it covered with clingfilm or use a lid.  This dough I rested for 45 minutes at 30C room temperature and the dough rose slightly in 45 minutes.  
  5. Shaping:
    1. Transfer the dough to a clean floured surface. 
    2. Flatten with rolling pin to a rectangle. 
    3. Fold right to centre and fold left overlap it.  Roll out with rolling pin.  Roll up the dough like Swiss Roll until a log is formed. 
    4. Place the dough in the loaf pan.   
  6. Final Proofing 
    1. Let it proof in a warm place until the dough reaches the height of the pan.  This one took approximately 3 hours at room temperature of 30C.  The duration of proofing depends on your ambient temperature and starter.
  7. Baking:
    1. Preheat oven at 190C (top & bottom heat) or 170C (fan-forced) for 10 - 15 minutes.
    2. Brush with egg wash (optional) and bake in a preheated oven for 30 minutes, or until golden brown.
    3. Remove bread from oven and let them cool on rack completely before slicing.

Yudane Dough

Sweet Stiff Starter Recipe

Main Dough



GENERAL NOTES:

SOURDOUGH STARTER


A healthy starter is very crucial as advised by Baking with Gina.   It is advisable to feed your starter regularly if you want your bread to rise nicely and to use the starter (levain) at its peak.  A starter that is fed regularly will be more active in general.  If the mother starter is not strong, the bread dough will not rise a lot even though the starter is used at its peak.  


GLUTEN DEVELOPMENT & WINDOWPANE TEST

Gluten forms when flour comes in contact with water.  Hydration of the flour causes the sticky and stretchy protein to form, giving structure to the bread.  This makes your bread trap air and rise. 

Gluten in dough can be developed by autolyse, resting, kneading or folding.

The windowpane test is used to determine whether the dough has been sufficiently kneaded.  By gently pulling the dough (or you may pinch off some dough) and trying to stretch it into a thin membrane.  If you are able to stretch the dough paper thin and translucent  without tearing, then the gluten is fully developed.  However, if you can stretch it without tearing but the membrane is not transparent, then the gluten is not yet fully developed.  

However, from my experience not all the recipe can achieve a thin and translucent window pane stage easily.   For example low hydration and low fat dough.  For such recipes, a reasonable window pane is good enough and it can be left to rest. Gluten will continue to develop while resting.  Exercising restraint to not over-knead the dough prevents the gluten from being overworked and broken.   Some of you may have experienced the dough breaking during the second proofing.  It is because the dough is over kneaded. 

The total kneading time for me is usually 15 minutes at low speeds except brioche dough with high fat percentage or dough using liquid fat which usually takes a little longer (maybe 18-20 mins).

From my experience, I found that high hydration dough with high percentage of fat will be easy to stretch and achieve a paper thin windowpane stage.

MILK POWDER 

Why do I use milk powder?  
  1. Milk or milk powder will enhance the flavour of the bread and makes the bread texture softer due to the fat content of the milk. 
  2. Milk powder is shelf stable and you can have it anytime when you want to use.  Unlike liquid milk you need to finish within a certain time before it spoils.
KNEADING TIME

For kneading, please regard the timing provided as an indication only. It is only meant as a guide.  Timing may differ depending on the brand of flour and electric mixer used. The protein content may vary from one brand of flour to another.

FLOUR

The right flour plays a very important role in bread making.   To achieve fluffy, soft and light bread, I used Japan High Gluten Flour in most of my bread baking.  The protein content is around  12 - 13%.

HYDRATION

The liquid measurement given is also a guide.  It is advisable to always reserve some liquid and not add it all in one go.  This would give you the opportunity to adjust if necessary. If dough is too dry, add the reserve liquid one tablespoon at a time until the right consistency.  This is because each flour absorbs water and hydrates differently. 

PROOFING

Please note that the proofing timing may also vary depending on your climate, environment, flour and your starter. 

If you are unable to judge by just looking at the dough, you can do the finger poke test:

Proofing:
  1. Lightly press the side of the proved dough with your finger.  If it bounces back immediately without any indentation, it means the dough is under proved and needs more time before baking.
  2. If the indentation stays and it doesn’t bounce back, it means it has been over proved.
  3. If the indentation slowly bounces back and leave a small indentation, it is ready to bake. 
  4. There will be a final burst of rising once the bread is placed to bake in the oven and it is called oven spring. 
WRINKLE TOP OR SHRINKING

If your bread collapses or gets wrinkled on top after removing from oven, it could be because your dough over proved during the second proofing. Please proof until the tip of the dough just reaches the rim of the pan, around 80% - 90% in size.

BAKING TEMPERATURE AND TIME

Do also note that the baking temperature and timing provided are what works for my oven and should also be regarded as a guide only. Every oven behaves a little differently, so please adjust accordingly for your oven.

Comments

  1. Hi,

    Thanks for sharing your sourdough recipes. I experimented with the rye sourdough soft bread and have a couple of questions.

    1. Why do you need to wait at least 4 hrs before using the yudane?
    2. My dough doesn’t rise after 4 hrs to the top of the pan, any suggestions why? Besides the loaf pan size I’m not sure why it takes so long as I live in Singapore.

    Thanks i’m advance for responding.

    Cheers,
    Katt

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    1. Hi Katt,

      Thank you for your questions. It is my pleasure to share.

      1. I don't have the exact answer on this as I followed the yudane method shared online. However, I believe 4 hours is to let the dough relax. Sometimes I use after 1 hour when I am running out of time. I have not found the different yet.

      2. Sourdough baking could take forever to rise. There are many reasons. It could be your starter still young or could be your pan size as well (the dough risen horizontally instead of vertically). Bear in mind too that bread made from rye flour usually will not rise very high.

      Thanks

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  2. Hi,

    I tried to bake the rye soft sourdough bread today and stumbled on a couple of things.
    1. Wonder why you need to keep the yudane for 4 hrs before using it?
    2. After 4 hrs my dough hasn’t reached the top of the loaf tin, any ideas? I can only think of the slight variance in size of the loaf tin and the fact that I used the yudane straight away as forgotten to leave it for 4hrs. Any other thoughts are appreciated.

    Thanks
    Katt

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  3. Can i replace the full cream milk with soya milk?

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    1. Hi there,

      Thank you for asking. Yes, you can.

      Cheers :)

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  4. Hi
    I made your recipe once and it taste really good. But I just wonder if I want to bake in 450g tin, how to make the loaf qty bigger?
    Tqvm

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    1. Hi, thanks for trying this recipe and your kind feedback. For 450g loaf pan, you can increase the quantity to 1.2 - 1.3 times.

      Cheers :)

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  5. Hi,

    I would like to replace sugar with sugar substitute such as Monk fruit sugar or erythritol. Is it possible?

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    1. Hi, thanks for reading this recipe. To be honest I never used substitution of sugar other than honey in sourdough baking. I am not sure how it will affect the result. However, no warm to try.

      You can omit sugar in stiff starter.

      Cheers :)

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  6. Thank you for your prompt response. I am glad that I could omit sugar in the stiff starter :).

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    1. Most welcome. But, just bear in mind that your bread may slightly sour.
      Cheers :)

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  7. Hello! Thanks for this wonderful recipe!:) I was wondering, if I wanted to ferment the dough overnight, would that be possible? Where in the process would you put it in the fridge for a long ferment? Thank you!:D

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    1. Hi, thank you for your interest in this recipe. You can try to ferment your dough overnight in the fridge during 1st Proofing. Please bear in mind this will yield quite a sour taste bread.

      Some people ferment the bread overnight during final proofing after shaping. However, sometimes may cause uneven rise.

      Cheers :)

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  8. When to add and how much (dry?) milk in this Soft Sourdough Rye recipe? It's mentioned in the General Notes on this recipe page and in the comments, but I do not see milk in the actual recipe.

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    1. Hi, Sorry for the confusion. This is the revised improved recipe which I did not use milk or milk powder. The milk powder I mentioned on the above General Notes are applied as general for other recipes too.

      Thank you for checking.

      Cheers :)


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